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  1. For starters, a much better picture might help but....... You have a very tired MkII helmet there....standard issue to most of the services (Military and civilian) although in a variety of forms...and if they weren't wearing one of these they were wearing the more unusually shaped CPH or "Zuckerman" helmets. This isn't going to sound very helpful but, re the lettering, your guess is as good as mine!....I've been researching these things for 30+ years and I come across a new one (to me) every week...a different marking or different three-letter combination (and they usually ARE three letters)..they could represent his rank/status.....his role/job...the location of his work..the name of his company/employer....the possibilities are numerous. A while ago I started to catalogue them and already have over 1,000 different examples noted...so even if/when you do finalise what you think the letters are without further knowledge of where (job) he wore it it'll be pretty much down to speculation.....but believe me, there's plenty of people out there who'll tell you what it "definitely is".....and I can assure you that it'll almost definitely NOT be whatever they come up with 🙂 If you're confident that you know for sure where he wore it (which role/establishment) your best bet would either be period photos of that place (there's a lot of books about a lot of wartime places)....and/or go searching for roles or locations.....they often crop up in a block of text.....looking for those three letters...but even then you'll be ASSUMING they are a match. You may even find their names in online or Archive records and there MIGHT be some assistance there. There will have been an instruction issued by someone re what to paint on the helmets.......it's England....so there'll probably have been a meeting about it...with minutes...and memos...and ultimately an instruction...and sometimes....just SOMETIMES copies of those are held in Archives, records offices etc...but holding your breath wouldn't be a wise move! If he was indeed actually "protecting" the HoP, my guess is that he won't be some old chap who worked in a Factory during the day...the HoP was an important building which would've probably been guarded by the Army, Home Guard or Police (none of which are likely to have had three letters on the front)...he might've been a Fire Watcher or Fire Guard...but they usually had "FG".... He might've been on the staff there...and as such had a marking specific to the HoP....although I'd expect a role title to be in there too ie where he worked AND what role he fulfilled. By all means keep trying to identify what the letters are....and then you'll spend a while making up combinations of letters that it COULD be.....personally, I'd research the PERSON and the place they wore it and keep your eyes peeled for three words..... Good luck!
  2. Your post has motivated me to give this one a try here....I'm still trying to break this code...."C.W.D."???.....clearly there was enough of them to justify a Junior Supervisory role (recently acquired). Until I saw the whitey I wondered if CWD was simply a Factory initial / Company name...but now I'm convinced it was a ROLE rather than a NAME.....but what role? Tony - thanks for the kick in pants!
  3. Nice lid...and NEVER say "it's only"....it IS.....😉 Funny how you can always spot a ROCO in profile. As you suggest, it's not the rarest of marked helmets BUT it is in great condition...now all you need is the white one, the one stripe, the two stripe, the one, two and three diamonds (if indeed they were actually applied to "A" helmets), the Staff Officer.......and then you can move on😀 Welcome back to the Helmet acquiring world....and keep your focus on these babies.....don't bother with boring ol' M1, Adrians, M42s, Ssh39s etc etc etc
  4. ...and my favourite........
  5. A hand-bag alternative to the box......
  6. Interesting question. I understand that the cork helmets were generally preferred by most firemen....and Ive seen pics of LFB staff with cork helmets alongside steel helmeted ones. And I know that cork type helmets came back in after the war......but where did they all go DURING the war?????? It's a very very interesting question........
  7. ...nice double-AFS helmet ...and well done for capturing it so well in the pic. I find it hard to get the camera in just the right position but that's one of the benefits of digital photography nowadays...you can just snap 50 pics and hope one of them has the right angle...AND it doesn't cost a fortune at "BonusPrint"...AND you don't have to wait for 10 days to be disappointed!! ..sticking with your FIRE theme, here's a more blatant ghosting...underlying red (fire-fighting) band beneath the blue of an administrator....probably more wear'n'tear than "ghosting" I guess
  8. Thank you my friend.....I don't know what it is that draws me to the "messy" rather than the "perfect"...I guess I like the stories they tell. They all help fill pages in the Draft! :-)
  9. ...a nice "ghost" WARDEN marking underneath what is possibly an Industrial ARP white-on-black marking. Not overly special but I do like re-issues....
  10. ..and sticking with the "Health" theme...... Officially a lot of Doctors helmets were white (and continued to be so post war in Ireland) but black ones turn up. Doctors attached to Mobile Units or FAPs wore white helmets with black "DOCTOR". A lot of the senior staff in the "health services" were doctors but they might've worn senior (stripes or diamonds) MOH, A, CS, FAP etc marked helmets. I particularly like this chunky style of writing (front only). A nice untouched early one.......
  11. 'Interesting view....I wondered why there was a smell of paint! Seriously, all three of my CS diamond'd-up helmets have very different fonts....and I guess this one's just different.. ......apart from that....I was given a tip off about it by a very respected collector........ good innit?
  12. Top of the Casualty Services tree.....'nice 3 diamonder. Not the most visually impressive but quite hard to find.....and completes my 1, 2 and 3 diamond CS run.
  13. Here's a nice one....."Aluminium" (not "silver") coloured Div Fire Staff helmet....administrative (blue bands, not red) showing current rank (one single thin blue ring) whilst the previous rank (1 thin, 1 thick blue band) is evident under the silver paint. It's difficult to see if the earlier rank was applied to a Khaki helmet but the silver paint job is not 100% and khaki paint shows in the gaps....either way, this one was once khaki.....
  14. 'need to kick-start this thread....here's a new one.....re-used from Casualty Services, Senior Supervisory grade (Ambulance Officer)...let's hope someone finds this one interesting...as I played one of my aces with the stunning Incident Officer one above and apart from Mr Lid and Bart all I got was tumbleweed!!!!
  15. 'little doubt about who used this one. A new addition...pulpware-style MkII. Not a hint of blue (for Incident Officer) and an intriguing bracket on the top......
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