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About Marcus H

  • Birthday 04/13/1972

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    My main focus of collecting is to the War Raised Units of the Cavalry Regiments: 22nd Dragoons, 23rd Hussars, 24th Lancers, 25th Dragoons, 26th Hussars and the 27th Lancers; also, the Northamptonshire Yeomanry.

    Plus, a general interest overall in British Cavalry and Yeomanry cap badges from 1898-1953.

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  1. You are most welcome and its found a good home in your collection. There’s a lot more bronze finish left on the badge than the sellers pics conveyed - it looks great! Best, Marcus
  2. Regarding the white-metal die-stamped collars, I firmly believe they were originally and intentionally made for ORs use, but as you know the wearing of such collars in the 24L wasn’t sanctioned for the ORs. Also, I’m of the distinct impression the collars were manufactured as to were the arm badges and supplied in a quantity to the regiment. That is, I suspect more than envisaged and proposed from earlier research and thoughts. It’s not my intention to dismiss the probability that indeed officers’ utilised such intended ORs examples; perhaps even silverplating them, too. I don’t honestly know about that. However, Peter Seaman conducted a lot more research into these regiments and had living contacts to address such queries. *Just to note: Fig. 38 in Seaman’s are are actually the silver plated examples, I own that very set pictured in the book; they're die-cast and resemble the OSD/enamel collars traits. Whereas Fig. 39 portrays the white-metal collars - he has those two sets mixed-up. On the other hand, I actually know of several veterans (ORs) effects with the families that include the die-stamped collars. Plus, a private museum with an attributed group including an arm badge and two collars, then of course my 24L group that includes an ORs pattern collar. Some of these collars have been altered with a brooch fitting - the assumption being either sweetheart conversions or post-1945, usage in wear. So conjecture and theory aside the die-stamped collars are more evident than not in the belongings of former 24L ORs. Possibly they were issued - at a time - prior to the RAC directives not permitting the wear of; or, these non-returned items to Ordnance (technically they should have been) were distributed to the troops accounting for those converted in a fashion with a pin fitting. Then out of interest we have a S/NCO wearing the collars and an arm badge on his wedding day in 1942, I posted that picture on the BBF. The wearer was a founding NCO of the regiment and an ex-17/21L; incidentally the museums group also belonged to a former 17/21L NCO. The wedding photo is likely an exception under the circumstances and I don’t conclude anything further from such an interesting picture. These are pretty much my thoughts and limited findings, to date. Pics below: a selection of collars with lugs and pin fittings. The last pictures are of the example obtained within a 24L group; this Lancer was a founding member from the first conscript intake in late December 1940.
  3. Righty, you need another ORs collar - blast and bugger I knew of a dealer in Canada that had two for sale more recently than not. Still, you must be very satisfied with those examples, so far.
  4. Come to think of it: what’s that now a complete set of cap and collar ORs, officers’ gilt/enamel and OSD, too, to the 24L. Well done👍
  5. Congratulations - a lovely completed set now, Graham. Best, Marcus
  6. http://www.historicalwarmilitariaforum.com/topic/5217-fife-forfar-yeomanry-scottish-horse/ It’s the white-metal example posted by Dave you want, Bart.
  7. Here we go, I forgot to add these:
  8. The hand is present on the Antwerp coat of arms and....
  9. As far as I know the distributed 24L personnel (all ranks) adopted their new regiments cap badges. That is, in my llmited research with photographs and ‘other’ regimental cap badges in groups and personal effects to veterans would attest to this. However, there are always exceptions. It’s possible former 24L personnel that didn’t get attached to another regiment and remained within the rear area ‘replacement pool’ wore their former regiment cap badge until attached elsewhere, perhaps? And, I do know of one officer that wore his black RAC beret with a 24L embroidered badge on it whilst serving with another regiment after disbandment. Alas that was only for a short period as he was subsequently wounded - I own the very beret. Best, Marcus
  10. Personally, I believe you’d be best suited with a British issue and made pattern, yes. That said: I don’t know for certain, hence, I will seek the opinion of a collector of such div patches today for you. Best, Marcud
  11. Hi Bart, The Bull should face forward on both arms. So my top patten example (one of a pair) was worn on the right arm and the bottom (again a single of a pair) example on the left arm. Best, Marcus
  12. Cloth isn’t my forte, at all. However, I would be inclined to agree with Jerry’s thoughts. These two 11th Armd Div patches belonged to a 24L Trooper (first intake of conscripts in late December 1940 through to disbandment in early August 1944) that landed in Normandy and upon the 24L disbandment, he was attached to an armoured replacement group within the 21st Army Group. Both of these patches are of British manufacture, the felt example being probably the most identifiable for the 1944/1945 wartime period concerned - it’s the one I have seen the most in 23H/24L family groups. *Note mine are dirty, worn and slightly discoloured.
  13. I personally like the RTR badge (Royal Tank Regiment - Fear Naught), but the other two I’m not conversant enough with to comment on. For ‘Antwerp’ you want the 23rd Hussars, which is indeed also a War Raised Cavalry Regiment - Antwerp 4th - 7th Sept. 1944, is one of the 23H granted battle honours. Many personnel from the 24L were reallocated to the 23H (the 23H being the sister regiment to the 24L) and took part in the entry/liberation of Antwerp and Belgium. Best, Marcus
  14. Hi Bart, The 24th Lancers would appear to be a genuine Gaunt manufactured other ranks cap badge on lugs; albeit worn on the pennons and crown from I would suspect over zealous polishing by the soldier. I have two very, very worn examples in a 24L group from excessive polishing. €30 is roughly £26, so around the reasonable price range if you don’t mind a little ‘period’ wear. I have seen these badges recently range in price from a few pounds on eBay and the website dealers selling them from £30 to £55. Regarding this very badge beimg hard to find: not in my experience and I see them more frequently than not. However, bear in mind the 24L only existed from mid December 1940 to early August 1944, when it was disbanded in France after seeing some harsh engagements on the front. Best, Marcus
  15. A recent addition to the collection is this cast white-metal, Italian theatre made arm badge. These very badges are purported to have been plated in silver, although what remains of the finish I can’t positively identify. Such could easily be ‘faked’ I guess, but another genuine example known to exist matches my example. The example with the original red backing is a UK factory die-stamped example for comparison.
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