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Hello, sirs,
I would to like to hear your opinion about a dagger I want to buy.
It is NA student league knife I was looking for quite a long time. And now I'd like to be sure that it is a proper item and if anyone here bought something from this buyer. 
The store is eaglesvictoria.com and here are some pictures of the item they posted. Hope it is informative enough.

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I am not too clewed up on HJ stuff, I have a couple of knives in various conditions. The question is what do you think of it, it is double marked which if I remember correctly ties it to an earlier period (not sure but that is something you can varify) than 39 if 39 is a date in this case. I also note the bottom left of the diamond is damaged as is the grip at that same place, could someone have dug out an original HJ diamond to upgrade this knife? Also possible is it could have been De-Nazified by the original owner and then Re-Nazified when the 'Danger from the allies' had dissapated? It is just curiuos damage in an odd part of the knife(not really in keeping with the overall condition?) if it has never been played with? Like I say, what do you think about how it looks, this is not pocket money, are you in a position to go and get a hands on viewing? I have no kowledge of the dealer and can therefore not comment either way.

Best

Rich

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I think this is a good knife. The Scaboard seems in great condition.  The leather isn't cracked or damaged.  There is a member recommended dealer site that has quite a list of people.  I would inquire about what kind of return policy in case it is discovered that this isn't a genuine war time piece?  This will let you know what kind of salesman this person is.    Do some quick looks at some of the other sites to see what kind of price range these are going for now.  I think around $250 is what I have seen recently. 

Best Regards,

JustinG

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Thanks everyone for advices. I asked some more photos from the seller - the emblem was restored but it seems original period repairing, probably De-Nazifying as you said. 
Return police in this web store is 14 days since the item's receiving so I bought the knife from there. Let's see how it goes.

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Get the clock ticking as soon as it arrives and document all corespondance with screen shots with date time group. EU1500 is a lot of money for a messed with knife? Good luck!

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A quick search brought this one up notice the difference in enamel techniques, I would say that the scabbard on yours does not show signs of ware in keeping with the knife?

https://militariaclub.ru/_directory/германия-третий-рейх-кортики-и-кинжал/nozh-natcional-sotcialisticheskogo-studencheskogo-soiuza-nsdstb/

Here is a post war scabbard, possible the HJ knife is ok again ware is not inkeeping with the overall knife. Rebadged , probably!

http://www.mymilitaria.it/liste_03/coltello_nsd.htm

Some more reading.

http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/hitler-jugend/german-nsdstb-student-youth-knife-162541-2/

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Having now read the last link on WRF, I now believe you are making an expensive mistake, there is no proof from the RZM that these things even existed and they seem to be manufactured from HJ knives?

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