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WWII British broad arrow letter codes and their meanings

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Just adding this for reference , but the letter codes for WWII British arrow marked items is as follows;

R=1939 Q=1940 P=1941 O=1942 N=1943 M=1944 L=1945 though Z can also equal 1945

The post war sequence is not known, but it should be possible to work it out if enough dated and arrow marked items were available for study. During WWI it appears that they used a code sequence of letters based on the issuing depots, which has been posted on the Great war forum. I don't think any work has yet been done on the interwar years, but I think they put the date below the arrow in most cases.

 

Showing a double marked example from an item of headgear, with dated and letter code broad arrow stamps.

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Would E be for 1942 ?

Could this be fake ?

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Would E be for 1942 ?

Hi Druid,

 

In post WWII a new sequence was introduced, so if it is post WWII, I would have to work out which year E would be for.  The date 1942 looks to have been messed with, but E is not a letter used during WWII, as the list above is complete.

 

Can you show the whole of it please?

 

I assume it is a Field service cap made by Compton Webb & sons.

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Hi jerry i changed the badge to match the buttons.

Here is another picture.

Messed with ? On closer inspection it could have been 1947 not sure.                          

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Sadly I think the date has been changed to make it appear to be wartime, as the E is later and would be for circa 1961 or 62, so I can only assume they have changed the 6 to a 4 and also added Kings crown buttons to it.  Do the buttons look to have been changed?

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Yes jerry it looks like the buttons are a later addition.

Think i will stick to cap badges in future.As cap badges are my main hobby.

Thanks jerry for your input.Badge taken off cap,cap now put into my junk box.

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A shame if you have been sold a messed with example.  I have quite a few caps in my collection and always looking for more, but it is too easy to change the buttons as in many cases they do not change over time.  And the Officers versions I prefer are not arrow marked, so the WWII and post war examples are nearly identical, and it is only by studying the makers marks etc that any sense can be made of them and I expect I have at least one that is later than I thought when I bought it.

 

The post war sequence of the broad arrow letters is not well understood, but the WWII sequence is well known and is correct.

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A reasonably accurate list of the letters and the dates they equal where known.

 

t=1937 & 1956 *
s=1938 & 1957
r= 1939 & 1948
q=1940
p=1941
o=1942
n=1943
m=1944 & 1953
z=1945
l=1946 & 1953
e,p=1947 *
r=1948
a=1949
b,a=1950 *
b=1951
c=1952
l=1953
m=1954
d,o,t=1955 *
t=1956 & 1937
s=1957
f=1958
x=1959 *

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Any luck with the letter E?

The 1950s maybe?

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1 hour ago, Dave M said:

Any luck with the letter E?

The 1950s maybe?

the list has it as 1947.

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