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The only formal DKiG citation I have is this example that was awarded to Heinz Frister who was a Bordfunker in 4./StG 77.
He was also awarded the Ehrenpokal on 9th November 1942 although unfortunately this DKiG example is the only citation of Frister's that I own.

I have no idea who Frister's pilot was unfortunately. Ther eis an Adolf Weiß who was a pilot with 4./StG 77 who was awarded the Knights Cross on 29th February 1944 but I don't know if this was a case of a Knights Cross taking longer to award then a DKiG for members of the same crew or is totally unrelated.

The Göring signature is the usual auto-pen variety while the hand signed signature in the bottom right corner belongs to Bruno Loerzer (RK & Pour le mérite)

The small stain in the corner was on the citation when I obtained it and is possibly some sort of residue from having been kept in a frame considering how straight it is.

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Kevin

Very nice DKiG formal doc..

I looked through Obermeiers book on Stukaflieger and the bio does not unfortunately list his BF. It's possible the two were related but the mystery goes on..

Jeremy

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Kevin

Very nice DKiG formal doc..

I looked through Obermeiers book on Stukaflieger and the bio does not unfortunately list his BF. It's possible the two were related but the mystery goes on..

Jeremy

Thanks for the comment Jeremy and also for checking the book.

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Here is a nice Iron Cross First Class document to a Oberfeldwebel in II. Gruppe, Kampfgeschwader 4 "General Wever". Fritz Röhrborn served with KG 4 during the invasion of Poland. He earned his Iron Cross Second Class in November, 1939 and likely served through the campaign in the West and the Battle of Britain. On November 15, 1940 he earned his EK1; it was processed on Luftflotte level and signed by Albert Kesselring. II. Gruppe was stationed in the Eindhoven area during the raids on England and primarily flew night time bombing missions through the summer and fall. The unit was one of the many that was gathered for the massive raid on Coventry on November 14, 1940. While it is possible that his EK1 was given for his active participation during the Battle of Britain, it is likely that he was decorated for the devastation of the Coventry the day before.

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Nice example. I wonder how many other aircrew were awarded the EK for that devastating raid. I can imagine that the pathfinders (KGr 100) would of been first in the queue for an award?

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I thought I would post this from my collection: an Ehrenpokal Urkunde posthumously awarded in 1943 as recorded below with a short level of research accordingly.

Regards Richard.

Feldwebel Karl Ludwig
Flugzeugführer.

Born: 10-December-1919 Berneck/Ofr.

Missing: 20-August-1943.

Aufklärungsstaffel 2.(F)/Nacht, Fernaufklärungsgruppe 2.

On 20-August-1943 operating from Orscha-Süd as part of Luftflotte 6, Do-217 K-1 aircraft, Werk Nr. 4471 coded ‘K7+FK’ of Aufklärungsstaffel 2.(F)/Nacht, subordinate component of Fernaufklärungsgruppe 2, suffered engine failure on a sortie and force-landed SE Kritschew (Sudenez-Titowka area) all the crew were reported as missing:

Flugzeugfuhrer: Feldwebel Karl Ludwig
Beobachter: Oberleutnant Günter Weigt (Ehrenpokal 26-July-43)
Bordfunker: Feldwebel Edgar Kubisch (Ehrenpokal 28-February-44)
Bordschutz: Unteroffizier Helmut Stiller.
11 days after being reported as missing in action, Feldwebel Ludwig was awarded the Ehrenpokal on 31-August-1943.

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Ink signed by RKT Generaloberst Bruno Loerzer (although somewhat faded)

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Aufklärungsgruppe (F) Nacht comprised of 4 Staffeln undertaking night photographic and nocturnal visual reconnaissance sorties. Aufklärungsstaffel 2.(F)/Nacht was formed on 01-June-1941 and was assigned as a component of Fernaufklärungsgruppe 2, operating on the Eastern Front.

On the Eastern Front, the primary role of the night photographic sorties was to detect the occupational state of airfields and observe river crossings and mechanised troop movements. Reconnaissance sorties covering road and rail networks were usually carried out visually and the overall number of sorties being dependent upon the urgency of the situation and the prevailing weather conditions.

Nocturnal visual sorties were flown well below the minimum altitude required for night photographic sorties, for which the reconnoitring aircraft would have to climb to 3,900 to 6,500 feet, and occasionally to 13,000 to 16,000 feet, over well protected and defended targets, before making the night photographic run. Although for work at lower altitudes the original night cameras had proved adequate, these were replaced as newer cameras with improved lenses systems with greater focal strength were developed.

Bundesarchive image of Do-217 K1 aircraft.

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I am always looking to improve upon the level of detail in all of my Luftwaffe research projects in my collection, consequently if anyone can add anything in particular to the nature of operations undertaken by Aufklärungsstaffel 2.(F)/Nacht over the preceeding time frame, it will be very gratefully received indeed.

I hope this may of proved of interest.

Regards Richard.

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beautiful and quite unknown unit/Ukrunde Richard congratulations on this find. Interesting the Nacht Recon staffeln adjoined to day time Fernsgruppen during the war Nacht 1, 2 and 3 and their almost unheard of histories.

I see by your interests we have a bit in common I too quite interested in LW groupings/Docs and of course day/night history-opeartions during latter war. Also your foto of the Do 217K appears to be from KG 100 "WIKING"

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Also your foto of the Do 217K appears to be from KG 100 "WIKING"

Hello Erich

I do not usually purchase single urkunden however, in this instance it was the first Ehrenpokal document for my collection so I bent my collectiong parameters and took it. Usually, additional documents allow for a far more detailed research piece, hence the limited information I have so far been able to put together.

The machine on the Bundesarchive image is indeed a KG100 example, I used the image simply as an example of a Dornier Do-217K aircraft.

Regards Richard.

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Richard

Beautiful document and an interesting write up. You always do an excellent job. As you know don't be surprised if at some point you come across the balance of the documents.

Nice addition!

Jeremy

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Although I have yet to find an image of the Staffel Wappen on a Dornier Do-217, the attached image of the design on a Dorner Do-17 was offered on e-bay.de some years ago now and I will include as a pont of interest.

Regards Richard.

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Richard

is it an owl ? what was the last aircraft make-up in the staffel if you know............... Ju 88 or ?

addendum ~ for November of 1944 the staffel had 19 Do 217M-1's and 2 Ju 188D-2's on strength. But was serviceable would be a big question to find an answer to.

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Leutnant Helmut Saure.

Born: 13-September-1918 in Homberg/Rhld.
Killed: 11-April-1941 over Volos harbour, Greece.

Flugzeugbeobachter
Erkennungsmarke Nr. 555 42 Nr.14.

7 Staffel, III./Kampfgeschwader 4 ‘General Wever’.
7 Staffel, III./Kampfgeschwader 30.

III./Kampfgeschwader 4 'General Wever' was formed 01-May-1939 at Nordhausen/Thuringia from III./KG253 and spent the summer training before being transferred to Langenau for start of the Polish campaign on 25-September-1939. Operating with Heinkel He-111P aircraft, III./KG4 was under the command of Luftlotte 1.
The ‘Polendfeldzug’ commenced on 01-September-1939 with III./KG4 attacking airfield at Krakow, escorted by I./ZG76.
Subsequent targets for III./KG4 involved:
02-September-1939 - Attacked the Polish Army training centre at Deblin.
06-September-1939 - Supported the advance through central Poland to Warsaw.
10-September-1939 - Attacked ground targets near Bzura. The battle of Bzura was to prove the largest battle in the campaign.
22-September-1939 - III./KG4 'General Wever' was withdrawn from front line action and returned to Nordhausen.

For his actions in the ‘Polendfeldzug’ Feldwebel Helmut Saure was awarded the Eiserne Kreuz 2.Klasse on 24-September-1939 at the field HQ.

Eisernes Kreuz 2.Klasse This certificate is A5 in format and was awarded to Helmut Saure when he held the rank of Feldwebel and was serving with Kampfgeschwader 4b‘General Wever’. It bears the official stamp of ‘Kampfgeschwader General Wever’ and originally dated 19 Sept, it was subsequently corrected to 24 Sept 1939 and signed in ink by Oberst Martin Fiebig, as Oberst u. Kommodore Kampfgeschwader ‘General Wever’ 4.

Bundesarchive image of a Heinkel He-111 bearing the Kampfgeschwader 4 'General Wever' abziechen emblem.

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In December-1939 saw III./Kampfgeschwader 4 'General Wever' transferred from Nordhausen to Vechta (23 km East-North-East of Osnabruck) and commenced intensive training for night flying and minelaying operations. Conversion training to Junkers Ju-88 aircraft began in February-1940.

Feldwebel Helmut Saure was awarded the Flugzeugbeobachter Abzeichen on 02-February-1940 before being promoted to Oberfeldwebel, effective 01-March-1940.

Flugzeugbeobachterabzeichen This certificate is A5 in format and was awarded to Helmut Saure when he held the rank of Feldwebel. It is dated 20-Febuary-1940 and signed in ink by the General der Flieger Gustav Kastner-Kirdorf, Chef des Luftwaffenpersonalamts. The numbering of the certificate records that this was the 24,069 Luftwaffe aircrew qualification certificate issued in 1940.

Oberfeldwebel Promotion Document This certificate is A4 in format and confirms the promotion of Helmut Saure from Feldwebel to Oberfeldwebel, while serving with III./Kampfgeschwader 4 ‘General Wever’. It is dated 29-February-1940 to be effective from 01-March-1940. It bears the official stamp of ‘Kampfgeschwader General Wever’ and is signed in ink by Oberst Martin Fiebig, as Oberst u. Kommodore Kampfgeschwader 4 ‘General Wever’.

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‘Fall Gelb’ was launched on 10-May-1940. III./Kampfgeschwader 4 'General Wever' now stationed at Delmenhorst under Fleiger Korps z.b.V.2, attacked airfields at Amsterdam-Schipol and Bergen op Zoom. From 11-16-May-1940 it continued to support the rapid Wehrmacht advance through Holland.

On 19-May-1940 during an armed reconnaissance sortie between Ostend and Boulogne, Oberfeldwebel Helmut Saure’s aircraft was shot down by flak and subsequently crash landed. The aircraft, Junkers Ju-88A-2 ‘5J+FR’ 7/KG4 (Werk-Nr. 5035) was written off in the crash.

The crew consisted of the following:

Flugzeugführer: Hauptmann Erich Bloedorn (Stellv. Gruppen Kommandeur and Staffelkapitäin 7./Kampfgeschwader 4 'General Wever')

Beobachter: Oberfeldwebel Helmut Saure

Bordfunker: Feldwebel Werner Stechardt

Bordmechanik: Unteroffizier Robert Schaaf.

Bloedorn and Saure were out of action for 10 days and Stechardt and Schaaf for 4 weeks as a result of the crash landing.

As a result of his wounds received in the crash, Oberfeldwebel Helmut Saure was awarded the Verwundetenabzeichen in Schwarz on 16-June-1940.

Verwundetenabzeichen in Schwarz This certificate is A4 in format and was awarded to Helmut Saure when he held the rank of Oberfeldwebel and was serving with III./Kampfgeschwader 4 ‘General Wever’. It is dated 16-June-1940 for wounds received on 19-May-1940. Bearing the official stamp of III./Kampfgeschwader ‘General Wever’ it is signed in ink by Hauptmann Erich Bloedorn, Gruppenkommandeur III./Kampfgeschwader 4 ‘General Wever’.

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Transferred to Kirchhellen on 20-May-1940, III./Kampfgeschwader 4 'General Wever' continued supporting the Wehrmacht advance through Belgium and Northern France. From 21-May to 02-June-1940 III./KG4 'General Wever' concentrated on anti-shipping missions in Calais/Dunkirk areas. On 03-June-1940 III./KG4 'General Wever' took part in ‘Unternehmen Paula’, the Luftwaffe’s strategic offensive operation to destroy the remaining units of the Armée de l’Air during the battle of France, before moving to Antwerpen-Deurne the following day.

‘Operation Fall Rot’, the second phase of the conquest of France was launched on 05-June-1940. From 05-19-June, III./KG4 'General Wever' attacked both harbours and rail targets at Dieppe, then columns fleeing in the Loire valley, especially in the Tours area. On 23-June-1940 III./KG4 'General Wever' transferred to Amsterdam-Schipol for rest.

July-1940 saw ‘Kanalkampf’ action, carrying out mine laying missions against mainland England from Amsterdam-Schipol. Placed under the command of 9.Fleiger Division, Luftflotte 2 for ‘Adlertag’ the main attack upon the RAF defences in the Battle of Britain on 13-August-1940, III./KG4 'General Wever' was then placed under the command of IX. Fleiger Korps on 04-September-1940.

Unfortunately, specific raid information for this period is unknown although it is known that III./KG4 'General Wever' attacked London on the night of 17/18-September-1940.

Oberfeldwebel was awarded the Eiserne Kreuz 1.Klasse on 12-September-1940.

Eisernes Kreuz 1.Klasse This certificate is A5 in format and was awarded to Helmut Saure when he held the rank of Oberfeldwebel and was serving with III./Kampfgeschwader 4 ‘General Wever’. Dated 12- September-1940, it bears the official stamp of ‘Luftflotten Kommando 2’ and is signed in ink by Generalfeldmarschall Albert Kesselring, Chef der Luftflotte 2 und Befehlshaber Nordwest.

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In late October-1940 Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring visited III./Kampfgeschwader 4 'General Wever' at Schipol. A conference followed lunch at which he announced the Gruppenkommandeur III./KG4 'General Wever', Hauptmann Erich Bloedorn was to be appointed Kommodore of Kampfgeschwader 30 and that III./KG4 'General Wever' was to be redesignated III./KG30 by 01-November-1940.

On 27-October-1940 as part of ‘Unternehmen Opernball’, 3 aircraft from each Staffel of III./KG4 'General Wever' were tasked with attacking RAF airfields at dusk. 3 aircraft were assigned to attack RAF Linton-on-Ouse.

The RAFF640 (RAF Station Diary) from RAF Linton-on-Ouse records the following concerning this raid:

‘Linton has its first experience of attack by enemy aircraft. At 1815 hrs, three Junkers 88’s approached from the north-west and dropped twenty (?) bombs, most 100 kilograms, from 2000 feet. One aircraft then turned and flew low over the station with machine guns blazing but met with such a hot reception that it veered off to the north. This may have been the one which was afterwards brought down some 25 miles east-by-north of Linton. There were no casualties to personnel but a certain amount of damage was done to the aerodrome itself, the gas chamber was demolished and a few windows broken in the transport section.’

Oberleutnant Friedrich-Franz Podbielski, Stafflekapitäin 7./KG4 'General Wever' and his aircraft was downed by anti-aircraft fire, crash landing at Richmond Farm, Duggleby, Yorkshire at approx. 1800L. All the crew were taken as POW with the exception of the Bordschutz Unteroffizier Piontek, who was killed.

01-November-1940 III./Kampfgeschwader 30 was formed at Amsterdam-Schipol with Junkers Ju-88 A-5 aircraft by the redesignation of III./KG4 'General Wever'. On the night of 23/24-November-1940 III./KG30 raided London before spending December training in Holland. The majority of January-1941 was spent on leave prior to carrying out day attacks on shipping targets in the Thames Estuary on 26-January-1941. Further raids were carried out against Boston, Lincolnshire on the night of 27/28 and against Grantham on 28-January.

22-February-1941 saw III./KG30 transferred to Gerbini, Sicily. A convoy was attacked south of Crete on 27-March-1941 before an unsuccessful attack on ‘Royal Navy Force A’ was undertaken on 29-March. This was withdrawing to Alexandria following the important strategic victory for the allies at the battle of Cape Matapan.

‘Royal Navy Force A’ was commanded by Admiral Cunningham and consisted of the following warships:

Battleships: HMS Warspite (flagship) HMS Barham, & HMS Valiant

Aircraft Carrier: HMS Formidable

This main fleet was accompanied by 2 flotillas of destroyers:

10th Flotilla - HMS Greyhound, HMS Griffin & HMAS Stuart.

14th Flotilla - HMS Jervis, HMS Janus, HMS Mohawk & HMS Nubian

Also present were HMS Havock & HMS Hotspur.

06-April-1941 III./KG30 both bombed and mined Piraeus harbour, sinking many vessels and wrecking the harbour. 11-April-1941 and Piraeus harbour was attacked again and Volos harbour was mined on the east coast of Greece. This was to be the last mission for Helmut Saure.

Early in the morning on 11-April-1941, 7./KG30 operating under Fliegerkorps X, took off from Gerbini, Sicily and approached the Greek coast. Squadron Leader Marmaduke Thomas St. John “Pat” Pattle DFC & Bar flying a Hawker Hurricane of 33 Squadron, had taken off to fly a transit sortie to a satellite airfield at ‘Churtons Bottom’, and was subsequently vectored onto a number of unidentified low-flying aircraft near Volos. He identified these as Junkers Ju-88 and Heinkel He-111 machines, which were attempting to lay mines in the sea at the entrance to Volos harbour. Attacking at once, he claimed one of each shot down before the standby flight of RAF Hawker Hurricanes arrived and chased the remainder of the attacking bombers away. It would seem that both his victims were Junkers Ju-88’s. III/KG30 lost Oberleutnant Hans Schaible and his Junkers Ju-88A-5 ‘4D+JR’ of 7./KG30 of which Leutnant Helmut Saure was the Beobachter and Leutnant Wimmer and his Junkers Ju-88A-5 ‘4D+FS’ of 8./KG30, with their respective crews. Both aircraft were destroyed in Volos harbour.

Oberleutnant Schaible was claim No 32 for Squadron Leader Pattle, who himself would be shot down and killed by 2 Messerschmitt Bf-110 aircraft of ZG26 only 9 days later.

Junkers Ju-88A-5 ‘4D+JR’ 7/KG30 (Werk-Nr. 8135)

Flugfuhrer: Oberleutnant Hans Schaible

Beobachter: Leutnant Helmut SaureBordfunker: Unteroffizier Wilhelm Knichmeier

Bordschutze Gef Siegfried Redser.

Leutnant Helmut Saure rests on the Cemetery in Rapendoza-Dionysus in Greece.

Endgrablage: Tomb 3 Plate 14 – ‘Under the unknowns’.

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During the reseach carried out for this document grouping I was very pleased to discover that pages 81 & 121 of Hajo Herrmann: "Eagle Wings" records:

“There, was Leutnant Saure, an Observer from Bremen, taciturn and ever-obidient, whose facial expression never changed whatever came along – suicide mission or special leave. Never a cheerful beam, never a sullen look, the only thing that counted was a job well done, no matter what the job was.”

“Leutnant Saure, a splendid man from Bremen, and his crew was lost on one of these attacks (blocking the British flow of supplies to North Africa from Egypt and Crete) as was a crew from 8. Staffel, that of Oberleutnant Wimmer, the Son of my former OC, from Dresden. They were laid to rest in the cemetary on Salamis.”

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If anyone can provide any additional information concerning Leutnant Helmut Saure then please contact myself via PM and I shall post here accordingly and update this thread as a result. If anyone has any knowledge as to the whereabouts of his Flugbucher, Soldbuch, Wehrpass or additional award citations, again I would very very interested.

I am also interested in any photographic images showing Staffel wappen, and any significant further iformation that might be out there which would enhance the research.

Any help will be very well received.

Regards Richard.

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Richard

Nice grouping and equally nice write up it truly brings these documents to life.

Interesting to see his tenure with Bloedorns crew. As you noted there is a decent write up in Hermanns book and in particular notes this units transition to KG30. I have have Hermanns German language version of this book titled "Bewegtes Leben". He sometimes had a bit more in this book so I will look through it this evening.

Jeremy

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