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Fake ID's (Formerly 'Wehrmacht Instructor Melee')

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I have some doubts about this one. Apart from the fact that there are 2 different spellings of instructor/instruktor in the same document, the german word for melee in this setting would be "nahkampf".

 

Bad one, in my opinion.

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Could you make some better close-ups for us? It's full of language mistakes and it also looks "pimped" like the IAB on the front two times - why would that be added on an Ausweis? 

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Hi

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It looks like someone is churning out different versions...

 

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Gentlemen,

 

No idea if these IDs are made to make one cry or to laugh.

 

But some work did go into these fantasy booklets to look old, stains, rust, wear etc etc etc.

 

Best of all is the one shown by Kevin, what a beauty that really is "Teammitglied U-Boot", (Besatzungsmitglied) ID card for a U-Bootmatrose with the photo of an officer wearing a KC.

 

At the end everything what can be wrong......is wrong with these IDs.

 

These IDs will go fine with a clown costume.

 

Best regards

 

Eric-Jan

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Another example.

 

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Gentlemen,

 

Best of all is the one shown by Kevin, what a beauty that really is "Teammitglied U-Boot", (Besatzungsmitglied) ID card for a U-Bootmatrose with the photo of an officer wearing a KC.

 

Best regards

 

Eric-Jan

 

Eric-Jan

 

Priceless!

 

It looks as though the faker used an image of Korvettenkapitan Klaus Korth (?) to embelish a U-Bootmatrose ID card.

 

 

Regards Richard.

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Certainly prolific...

 

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Kevin,

 

Thank you for showing us another "gem".

 

All these shown IDs have so far their source in Eastern Europe.

 

Best regards

 

Eric-Jan

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And a 'new' one on M321! These could become novelty collecting items in their own right! 

 

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And a 'new' one on M321! These could become novelty collecting items in their own right! 

 

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Indeed they could Kevin, seeing what is going around already, one can make a "nice" specialized collection with them....

 

Best regards

 

Eric-Jan

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I am a new member and recently purchased these documents from a private seller in the Ukraine. The seller stated that the Uncle got them at the end of the war. There are many more on offer.  They look authentic but would appreciate any comments on them as I have never seen any like this before.  I am off on holiday from 22nd May until 12 June so may not have wi fi access and may not be able to respond immediately. Had to get son in law to do this for me hence I needed to get the ball rolling. 

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Ris,

 

All are fantasy pieces, recently produced in Eastern Europe, and your title shows the direction where they are coming from........and with a nice phony story from the seller......

 

Best regards

 

Eric-Jan

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Wow these things are popping up like spores!!!

 

It would appear they are coming out of the east??

 

Certainly good for a laugh every time another shows up.

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Considering how many of these there are I think this thread should be pinned (for now at least) for reference purposes.

Please add any others that you come across.

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All:


 


Hello! Netopvr67, thank you for starting this topic! I greatly appreciate eveyones input, very informative. Fakes are unfortunately a part of collecting. But as by this topic demonstrates, the minefield of fakes can be navigated.


 


Best regards,


John


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Thanks to all who responded to my photos, it just goes to show how one can be fooled, they looked to the untrained eye very authentic, although a friend of mine; retired immigration officer studied them and was not convinced as the impressed marks and wet stamps seemed not that clear for the period.  Anyway they look good so will just file them away.  This does just show the benefit if joining a forum like this.

 

Thanks again

Gerry  (Ris)

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Hi Gerry,

 

I only hope that there didn't go too much money spend in those IDs.......

 

Best regards

 

Eric-Jan

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First of all, Gerry, welcome to the Forum and secondly - nonetheless - thanks for posting your (fake) ID's which now can be used as an extra reference. Hope this will not make it in the market anymore and fool others but as long as money is to be made, it probably will not. Another great reference thread! Thanks to all who participated. 

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