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Home Front: 1939 to 1945 Helmets

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Ade, I've never seen or heard of the Group Warden helmet mind you, there are probably hundreds I've never seen or heard of but great to find both in good condition.

Jerry, I had a quick look too, there were a few people named Jarman in the Llanidloes area.

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I'd never seen one either BUT on the basis that many years ago I got a "Deputy Group Warden" helmet I guess I shouldn't've been surprised to see this one (even though the styling / marking is totally different). On that basis there's probably a Deputy Senior Chief Officer, Asst. Senior Chief Officier and so on too

.....or is it Company Officer???? Industrial ARP tended to be Chief Officers but who knows.........

I particularly like the Barr and Stroud one as I also have a No.12 MkVII range finder of theirs........

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1 hour ago, TinLid said:

If they are stamped with an M or asterisk, they will be magnetic, and not for military use.

But they look the same.

My helmet is stamped JSS HSN 1939

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15 minutes ago, AJMSinclair said:

 

My helmet is stamped JSS HSN 1939

JSS is usually if stamped on the helmet for Joseph Sankey & sons, though I do not know if they also made chinstraps.

maybe posting some pics would help clear this up for you

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20 minutes ago, Jerry B said:

JSS is usually if stamped on the helmet for Joseph Sankey & sons, though I do not know if they also made chinstraps.

maybe posting some pics would help clear this up for you

 

4 minutes ago, 2 Black Bands said:

Is there anything stamped / stencilled on the strap

All my photo seem to be to big to upload.

Nothing seems to be stencilled to the chinstrap apart from a hand written name.

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Just now, 2 Black Bands said:

Sounds like you have a Sankey-made Helmet with a standard strap ie non-magnetic. Does the Helmet have any holes in the rim by the strap holders and if so how many?

Nope, none.

 

So this seems to be a helmet used by the regular army?

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Textured, = small gritty pieces in the paint as opposed to smooth shiny paint

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1 minute ago, Jerry B said:

Textured, = small gritty pieces in the paint as opposed to smooth shiny paint

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Yes, the one i have is smooth with a net.

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Probably early war home front helmet with greyish green smooth paint before they started only using lower grade marked helmets for home front use.

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2 minutes ago, Jerry B said:

Probably early war home front helmet with greyish green smooth paint before they started only using lower grade marked helmets for home front use.

So not army

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Just now, 2 Black Bands said:

Without a pic we’ll perhaps never be 100% but it does sound like a netted Home Fronter......

i am new to this forum and all my pictures seem to be to large to upload. Any Help 

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I can’t recall if there’s a minimum post rule here before posting pics....some Forums have that. But I always shrink pics for any Forum posting....I think I do it by 40%. Can’t recall buying any software so I must’ve picked up some free-ware somewhere...Google shrinking photos for starters

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42 minutes ago, 2 Black Bands said:

I can’t recall if there’s a minimum post rule here before posting pics....some Forums have that. But I always shrink pics for any Forum posting....I think I do it by 40%. Can’t recall buying any software so I must’ve picked up some free-ware somewhere...Google shrinking photos for starters

 

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An helmet that was mostly used on the home front, smooth khaki green paint, as apposed to textured khaki green for the military.

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