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....and here's one with a (actually 2) metal "M"s attached. Very well made letters attached directly to the outer shell i.e. there's no holes thru the helmet. I can't make out how they are held in place....nor can I figure out what was wrong with white paint......

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Thinking about it some more.....officially if it were to represent a Company name the role of the wearer (FAP, W, A etc etc) SHOULD accompany the company name. I’m sticking with Messenger...perhaps one with too much time on his/her hands.....

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Here's one from the book (still available, tho' over half sold now...hint hint). This has to be one of the most rare ones....DC's were Scottish.....there were only 5 Districts and 7 job holders...so possibly/probably just one of 7. But rarity is an interesting thing....if you have a Fire Chiefs lid from a small factory ARP Fire team it's even rarer...there was only ONE chief and only ONE factory by that name...so what may appear to be "just a Factory helmet" could be a totally one-off....and they don't have to be "Chiefs"......a company (with badged / company-marked lids) with a small Industrial ARP team may have just 2 Messengers......(but their helmets would be pretty dull).....

....that's made you think hasn't it?

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What do you think guys, please?

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'don't see many of these around...Deputy Fire Guard Officer (according to a recently published book! 🙂  ...well over half sold now, Chritmas is coming....no-re-print...well received...first of it's type.....Authors are great guys..... )

It looks to have been re-painted (the white bit) a long time ago, around the black bits. Annoyingly the inner rim stamps aren't clear under the paint...but it's probably BMB....or Harrison.....or.....

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Here's one from the book. An extremely clean Chief Wardens helmet.....it had been stored for years under a custom-made cloth cover which took the brunt of the storage wear and tear. The cover itself looked as if it was once a rich dark blue colour and MAY have been that of an Incident Officer role. However it could also have been used to hide the white helmet for fear of identification from planes or during the expected invasion....both of which were concerns amongst some higher ranked white-helmetted personnel.

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Thank you..every time I look at the cover I change my view......at the moment it's a white-hider...

There's a great example in the book of a similar lid with 2 covers....one hessian (a white-hider) and the other bright orange....as if white wasn't bright enough!....it always makes me think of those classic Tommy Cooper sketches when he had split uniforms and had to keep switching hats.....perhaps that one's a bit too old for folk here....

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Hello Gentlemen,

I have not been on the forum in a while, but some new helmets were just listed on a dealer site and I wanted to let you know just in case anyone is interested.  The picture below shows the ones that were just listed, and here is a link to the page: https://www.germanmilitaria.com/Advanced/AdvancedViewFeb25th2020.html

 

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Welcome back!!

Wow.....some very low priced examples in that lot....and some rare ones too...I’m assuming they’re Canadian dollars...and, sadly, postage from Canada to the Uk is one of the most expensive....doh!!!!

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Which ones would you say are rare?  I assume the Police Messenger is one of them.

Did I read correctly above that you are selling off the helmets from your book?

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errrr......no...what you SHOULD have read is that we planned all along to write a book to make a profit...AND to raise market price and then to sell the helmets to take advantage of that self-induced value uplift....

in reality, 'still collectin' 'em!  🙂       Never write a book just because you're convinced there ought to be one!

 

I'll PM you my thoughts on that list..no one else is reading this anyway  🙂

  

 

 

 

 

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On 2/26/2020 at 7:44 AM, 2 Black Bands said:

errrr......no...what you SHOULD have read is that we planned all along to write a book to make a profit...AND to raise market price and then to sell the helmets to take advantage of that self-induced value uplift....

in reality, 'still collectin' 'em!  🙂       Never write a book just because you're convinced there ought to be one!

 

I'll PM you my thoughts on that list..no one else is reading this anyway  🙂

  

 

 

 

 

I read it. Shame the British section of this forum is all but dead.

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...'not convinced it's quite that bad......things are always a tad slow in the "Allies" section of virtually every Forum....but then again, we did lose....didn't we? ...that's how it seems 🙂

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Here's one of my favourites from the book......'looks messy (and "wrong") but in the period before 2 black stripes meant you were a top dog the guys at the top wore red helmets with white lettering....blah blah...you know all this anyway (and if you don't, buy the book!  🙂  )

This once-red lid has been over-painted black but the lettering part has been left exposed ...and the underlying red is evident all over the shop. What makes this one doubly special is that beneath the red paint there were once (black?) diamonds which can be seen under the top coats when the helmet is tipped in the light.....what I've never figured out is why black....as we all know they went from red to white (with 2 black bands).

Most folk search out the perfect...the un-issued....I seem to be drawn to the messy ones!

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