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Home Front: 1939 to 1945 Helmets

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I purchased this helmet from a friend and fellow collector here in Canada and it was sold to me as an Army Fire Service Mk II I am still on the fence on this one though and have been considering the possibility that the hand painted flash may stand for Auxiliary Fire Service .

Up to this point though my research has been fruitless and I can find no evidence that supports it is Army fire service and or Auxiliary Fire Service perhaps in time and with a little more research some new information will come to light.

The shell on this particular Mk II is interesting in its own right in early 1942 General Steel Wares produced a batch of helmet bodies that did not meet the final government quality control inspection the Department of Public and Health were allowed to purchase 30,000 of these helmet bodies for use by the A.R.P and Civil Defense Network they will be so found stamped 1942  G.S.W. MK I the steel lot batch code A   P will be found on these notice the large gap between the A   P this would suggest the P was added at a later date by far these are one of the rarest Canadian Mk II helmet bodies that one can add to his collection do to the low numbers that were released in to general service.

 

Regards Mark 

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1941 dated G.S.W. flashed to the A.R.P. Wardens service as I previously mentioned I see very few of these come on to the market here in Canada C/D Mk II's flashed to the A.R.P. are more predominant the liner is a little miss shaped in this example but still all and all a nice helmet to display on the shelf.

 

Regards Mark 

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Another very good example Mark and in great condition as well.  If you don't mind me asking, how many helmets do you have in your collection?

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Thanks Jerry Canadian and Commonwealth WW II I have 43 examples postwar Canadian and British 12 including the Amplivox A.F.V Crew man helmet I purchase yesterday for the princely sum of $ 20.00 other examples from around the world total 36 so 91 in total.

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Here's an Senior Rescue officer Mk2 with 2 diamonds to the front, the side flash is for the Midland CD region group No6,

 Headquarters at Stoke on Trent.

  

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That is a killer example Aaron :thumbup:  I would think these are not commonly found so well marked as your example and thanks Dave CD helmets are hard to collect here in Canada are civil defense network was quite small compared to Great Britain so there is not a lot of variety I am going to try and add some examples from province of Quebec as there main language is french some of there examples of CD helmets are flashed in a different configuration. 

 

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Why was the helmet painted white? Was this typical for the rescue services? Thanks for sharing these beautiful helmets, Aaron. And A Warm Welcome to the forum.

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White painted helmets normally donate a rank, starting with just white for instance, post warden, FAP leading hand, rescue party foreman.

 Then there was the diamonds for different ranks, then about 41/42 they went over to black stripes, but then not all area's followed suit.

 

Thanks for your answer, Aaron, very informative as well as the helmet scheme. 

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Here's a Mk2 No.2 B of the home guard with textured khaki green paint inside & out & with a decal of the Rifle brigade over it's colours.
Due to the textured paint date/maker name not readable but is most likely dated 1941 which is also the date of the liner. Maker name of the liner is FFL, which is in the usual place plus on the side of the liner too.

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Here's another unit marked helmet, a Mk2 No.2C of the Queen Victoria Kings Royal Rifle Corps of the home guard.

It has an  woven net of the variety not often seen, the shell is painted khaki green textured paint on the outside with a drawn badge on the side KRRC.

The helmet & liner were both made by BMB,shell dated 41, liner 1940, the net has left an imprint on the paint where it has been on for so long.

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A standard grey painted No.2C but with the a kings crown & civil defence to the front, I think the person who used this helmet would have worked in one of the many controll centre's.

Under the controller would have been the many heads of the different ARP services, plus also all the clerks, telephonists, messengers & liaison officers.
Shell is dated 1940, made by BMB, liner is also dated 1940.

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Thanks to the AFS, NFS SFP,FG, FW & a multitude of private factory fire brigades many lives & businesses were saved.

 Here's a quick glance of the many paint schemes that can be found on the helmets, & these probably only scratches the surface of the many out there.

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A bit rough I know, but interesting. An Messenger helmet that was either in the Wardens service as a messenger.Or was a part time warden as well as messenger. 

 W over M to the front, while the rear just has an M.

 

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Thought I'd add a bit of colour, yellow. As used by the gas identification service.

 Originally painted black, then over painted yellow, the black G.I. is to front & back, Gas Identification. 

Helmet & liner are both dated 1940.

 

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TinLid that rifle brigade helmet is just simply stunning.Correct period badge as well. :thumbsup:

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This is pretty much an unofficial marking on this helmet, Senior Warden. By rights it should be painted white for officer, with either diamonds or black stripes. So these markings are probably from around 1939-40, & never changed.

 There is a nicer W under the W that is there now.

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This is pretty much an unofficial marking on this helmet, Senior Warden. By rights it should be painted white for officer, with either diamonds or black stripes. So these markings are probably from around 1939-40, & never changed.

 There is a nicer W under the W that is there now.

 

 

Always good to see new variants of home front lids, thanks for showing it Aaron.

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