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Hi friends,

 

yep, an ususal thread title.

 

But as many of us partly buy not 57ers from time to time and haven´t got the possibility to share these with us here i thought it would be a nice idea for an own thread.

 

We surely post these pieces in the correct  sections on the forum but not everyone of us is looking there.

 

So here you can post your newest piece when it´s not 57er related but that you still want to share with the 57er bunch.

 

As not everyone is a specialist in all areas of collection i´d appreciate a very good description of the piece like maker, rare or not ....

 

Hope you like that idea  :smile:

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Good idea Rudiger, can re struck medals and awards that were not re designed in accordance with the 1957 regulations be shown here, such as "Reiter abzeichens" etc, or are they classed as related to 57ers ?...................and of course Imperial awards that were still available to veterans well after 1957., or is it for such stuff as I collect for my BW collection.

Prost ! Steve.

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Thanks Steve  :smile:

 

I think we can show here everything else. Imperial, third Reich, Bundeswehr, Germany ...everything you added new to your collection and has nothing to do with 57ers.

 

I just posted my new imperial EK I in the imperial section but would like to share it with my 57er friends ..... so i´ll post it here.

 

It´s a birthday present i made myself. That one is for my EK - BVK display and was the last missing imperial piece. It´s marked KO. I was out on the look for one that for sure has been made between 1914 and 1918 and the KO pieces matches that time.

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Rudiger, a nice KO Imperial EK I ! typical paint loss on the core, but on yours only a small amount, many KO mm crosses are quite bad..........

  Here's my latest, more BRD/BW orientated, four piece medal bar, with "Einsatzmedaille Fluthilfe 2002" (Flood medal) and three marching/hiking medals, the "Viertagekruez von Nijmegen", the "Silberne medaille des IML Haervejasmarsches von Viborg/Danemark" (Danish marching medal) and a "Medaille des IML Saga-Marsches Norge" (Norwegian).

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Great medalbar Steve. Very interesting too see 3 different marching medals on that one. The dutch Nijmwegen march is well known but the other two a really new for me  :ohmy:

 

Always nice to see Fluthilfemedaillen, i like these :thumbup:  

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Another couple of items I got in a grouping, I had no idea what they were until researching informed that they were civilian award stick pins, the larger of the two being from the office of the Bavarian Prime minister for "honourable recognition for many years of outstanding volunteer work" awarded since 1994...... I thought them interesting, so have kept them.

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I've always loved this broche I picked up some time ago ... assume WW1, but dated period 1886 till 1918.

Given to midwives to thank them for 40 years (!!!) of service. Simply a stunning badge, especially the intricate detail on it !

 

Mathijs

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  Here's my latest, more BRD/BW orientated, four piece medal bar, with "Einsatzmedaille Fluthilfe 2002" (Flood medal) and three marching/hiking medals, the "Viertagekruez von Nijmegen", the "Silberne medaille des IML Haervejasmarsches von Viborg/Danemark" (Danish marching medal) and a "Medaille des IML Saga-Marsches Norge" (Norwegian).

 Prost ! Steve.

 In hand now....so a few more images, quite happy with this piece, as I collect BRD awards/medals, fits in nicely, although I tend to think civilian piece rather than BW............Although I suppose it could be Reservists, Police,Fire or other emergency/official services, thoughts Gentlemen...Considering it has to have been made in the last 10/11 yrs its condition is not mint ! probably due to bad storage or continous use !

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Mathijs, that´s a fantastic badge. I only saw that one in my imperial catalogues but never on good pics. A very well made piece with a respectable background  :thumbup:

 

Thanks for the extra pics. Steve. A medal bar that fits wonderful to your collection. As you said, it could have been worn by many units.

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Hi Guys,

Since it's hard to obtain 57 items that I don't have I thought I would venture out and try collecting Bulgarian awards. Here are 2 of my favorites. They are II and III class Honour Badge for Encouragement of Philanthropy.

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Rudy

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Great looking piece, Rudy  :thumbup:

The bulgarian awards look really nice and are well made in quality and design.

 

 

Forgot to show my latest catch for my imperial section. A very nice 5 place ribbon bar with hanseatic cross  :squint:

 

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Nice bar Rudiger, I love the Hanseatic crosses !

 Here is one of my four Fallschirmjager BW qualification badges I have, this one in particular has certain 57er qualities, from St & L (notice the English "&" instead of the German "u" marking)  and notice to, the pin/hinge and catch.........similar to what is seen on their EK I spanges of the same period late 1950's early 60's !

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Hi Guys

 

As I collect all things IAB, I have added these two examples along the way.

 

Some consider these Souval examples the manufactured precursor to the 57er IAB's with the swazy removal done prior to the finish application.

 

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These Imperial post war (WW2) veterans replacement awards are incorporated into my 1957 collection.......although small in number they make a visually pleasant display.


All made by the firm of "Steinhauer & Luck" of Ludenscheid, the "H.J.Wilm" PLM box is probably a reproduction.....but it looks the part ! The Schinkle form EK II on bar is a wartime "Deumer" made piece.


Thanks to Rudiger for the H.J.Wilm cased PLM, and Nigel for the heads up on The EK II.........Prost chaps ! Steve.


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Steve L:

 

Hello! It does not matter what period your pieces are from, they are absolutely fantastic crosses. Thank you for sharing them with the Forum.

 

Best regards,

John

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These Imperial post war (WW2) veterans replacement awards are incorporated into my 1957 collection.......although small in number they make a visually pleasant display.

All made by the firm of "Steinhauer & Luck" of Ludenscheid, the "H.J.Wilm" PLM box is probably a reproduction.....but it looks the part ! The Schinkle form EK II on bar is a wartime "Deumer" made piece.

Thanks to Rudiger for the H.J.Wilm cased PLM, and Nigel for the heads up on The EK II.........Prost chaps ! Steve.

 

This is stunning.Thanks for showing.

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Many thanks, Steve, for showing your wonderful display.

 

I once had 3 S&L PLM´s, sold one to Steve and the remaining ones i´d like to show you in my display. It´s my honor WW 1 display where the most scarce pieces are the shoulderboards from the IR 163 Neumünster, my hometown. The EK I and EK II are wartime originals (many thanks to a fellow 57er member here), shoulderboards are originals, too. In that display there´s nothing more to add, for me finished and i am very happy with that one. It´s my small hommage to a regiment that was located in my hometown and had a PLM recipient, Georg Sick.

 

So here it is ...... 

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Rüdiger

Such a meaningful display, and a beautiful one at that. Well done sir! :thumbup:

Best
Pierce

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Gentlemen, a rather inexpensive addition to my Souval collection, a nice re-strike (some may say reproduction) LW PAB for 25 assaults..........mid production I would say early 1960's due to Souvals pin/hinge ans St u L type "C" catch....it is known that Souval did source parts from St u L later in his production........this is a nic3e die stamped version as opposed to die cast, the rear being smooth and devoid of pock marks etc, some of Souvals cast pieces are, well frankly awful ! 
Bought at a bargain price due to the number plaque missing............but I had one in my parts box, a "25" so with the aid of some acetone and super glue, problem fixed !
Love em or hate em, Souvals post war copies/repros/re-strikes call them what you will are becoming collectable in their own right.
Prost ! Steve.

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Now that´s a very nice and not often seen Souval, Steve  :thumbup:

 

At the moment i don´t know if there were any wartime ones produced or if these were only awarded on paper, but even if there are some original wartimes pieces out.....they´ll be not payable for us normal collectors. So you got a very nice looking piece from a wartime maker in wonderful condition and quality. Glueing the number plate on the wreath was a good decision IMO, looks better and complete.

 

Congratulations on that scarce beauty.

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Thanks Rudiger ! now I am a Souval collector I guess !............. lol !

I will stick to the better made more presentable versions of his awards, Souval did make some horrible pieces during his time !

Prost !Steve.

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Where do you put this? a long time ago I purchased the attached because it interested me, for many years I couldn't quite figure out what it was, gradually I came to realise, that whilst it looks like it could have military connotations, in fact it hasn't (So maybe it doesn't qualify).

 

Throughout the early part of the 20th century, ten-pin bowling was quite popular it seems, if you examine the obverse the motif is in fact 2 bowling balls and 3 skittles!. It was "Won" in 1923 by a Georg Rothaug of the "Kegel Club", If it doesn't qualify for inclusion, please remove.

 

Useless information, when Hitler acquired Haus Wachenfeld on the Obersalzburg and began to modify and enlarge it to what became the Berghof, he had a bowling alley constructed in the basement, whilst the Berghof has long since disappeared the Bowling alley, winding gear for the large picture window and other bits still remain, albeit under many metres of dirt and rubble. I believe there was also one in the Neureichskanzlai Berlin (but I can't verify that)

 

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One for Rudiger.............just bought this uniform set from Germany, not in hand yet....on its way, Rudiger I assume its for the rank of "Kapitan zur see" ? what is the "R" for on each sleeve cuff "Reservist" ?   I have bought this to display 57ers upon it as you have, if you look closely it already has loops for awards below the BW proficiency badge, so perhaps this Kapitan was an old hand, a veteran ? The sea going badge came out in 1972, so it os possible...I think the medal bar and proficiency badge have been added to help with the sale !

 your comments greatly appreciated.........my knowledge of the Marine is little !

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Hi Steve,

 

wow, that´s a great and not often seen uniform  :thumbup:

Indeed we have here a "Kapitän zur See", the last rank before getting promoted to Admiral.

 

The "R" means that he is retired and "Reserve". Taylor here is Geiger in Kiel, a well known taylor for Navy uniforms. He made these for a very long time and was too active in WW 2. Can be that the piston rings, who are wide, are wartime leftover parts. We have here the possibility that the loops are for 57er medals. The whole uniforms is great and absolut honest. IMO the seagoing badge is one of the first as it´s an embroidered one, can you show close ups when it has arrived?

 

For comparison i´ll show you my seagoing badge .... came out of and old taylor who gave up. Made in the first days of 1972.

 

A great set, really. And it´ll be perfect displaying your KM awards  :smile:

 

Ah, here my badge, oldschool quality.

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